Carnal Church Detection

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10 Signs of a Carnal Church

by Pastor G. Craige Lewis:

Finding a worldliness free church these days can be disheartening. There are so many crooks and devils pastoring churches these days, it can be a chore finding a service that will meet your needs rather than tickle your fancy. The bible tells us that the Devil can transform himself into an angel of light and his ministers into ministers of unrighteousness. Why in the world would a person desire to be in a church that is full of unrighteousness and carnality? Why not just club, party, and hang out in the world where that stuff belongs? I don’t understand why people even involve the church of God in their wickedness. What is the point? If you are in sin, then why practice sin and claim him?

But we see the church morally declining because of the leaders that are put up by carnal people. It’s not just the Pastors fault, but it’s the people that heap upon themselves these teachers, desiring to live worldly and carnal while claiming the God of our salvation. Let’s explore the 10 signs of a carnal church so that those of you that are really searching for a worship house will not have to sit through multiple takes of foolishness to make a decision. You do not want to expose your family to the umbrella of foolishness that many of these churches are operating under. So, here are the 10 signs of a carnal church:

10. Cash Money Evangelists- When you find out that preachers like the “money cometh man” has visited this church or they are under them in any way, make that your first and last visit! Pastors that want money will bring these thieves in or set themselves under them to be in position to get rich. They will use the pulpit like an Amway presentation and bring in these money stealing evangelist to generate income. This is a trick because while the Pastor gets richer, the people in the church get dumb and poor. Some will prosper because they were already prosperous, but the average person will never get any more than they would have already gotten had they not financed foolishness. Beware, it’s a spiritual pyramid scheme!

9. Financial focus - When you hear about offering and tithes before the offering period, beware. When you keep hearing about blessings, season, harvest, destiny, purpose, breakthrough, and especially FAVOR, then know you are being set up. All these things should pertain to soul winning, but when they are used as financial buzz words, then you know the pastor needs cash. The bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil and anytime money is overly emphasized in a ministry, there is evil following it. So, if they have a space on the visitors card to state your income bracket, proceed to the nearest exit!

8. Bad language -Any pastor that will use profanity in his pulpit is childish! That is one of the most carnal things you will ever see and it speaks volumes of the pastors lifestyle outside of the church. The bible says that if the tongue is out of order, the rest of the body is as well, so, you just got your sign on whether or not this is the person to bring your family under. And if the word for every Sunday is “SEX” then you know something is going on. PG-13 is too high a rating for Sunday morning worship. Why in the world would anyone tolerate a cussing pastor? Are we that desperate for a man to be over us that we would allow him to do what many of us don’t do in front of our own families? What a shame and yet it is happening at an alarming rate.

7. Divorce rate - You can learn a lot about a ministry and what kind of attacks it is experiencing by the number of divorces that are occurring. When people in leadership of a ministry divorce, it’s not the same as lay members divorcing. God hates divorce because it essentially says that people are giving up and not giving him a chance to reconcile them. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes, the circumstances may call for divorce based on abuse, or one party not being willing to work it out, but when people just mutually agree that they don’t want each other anymore, then that is what displeases God. And a church that is full of divorced couples is dangerous. Especially when it’s in the leadership and they can’t seem to work out their differences. And you never want to put yourself under a pastor that struggles with marital issues. When a man’s focus is his church rather than his family, beware. He is a hound dog on the prowl, seeking gratification outside his own home! Believe That!!!

6. Sinful Alliances - When the Bishop or Leader of the parent organization of your church is brought in by the pastor, check him out. If he has a bunch of homosexuals flying around with him or he is carnal and devilish, then expect the same from your pastor. A man cannot sit under wickedness long, without being affected by it. Psalms tells us that the wicked walk around freely when the vilest of men are exalted. When men come under foul leaders, they are essentially saying that they would rather position themselves for a position in the organization than protect their church from sinfulness. After all, isn’t being apart of a wicked organization saying that you are in essence in favor of wickedness? Be careful of this double standard. It’s not about the organization in God’s eyes, but it’s about the people that the Pastor is suppose to be caring for.

5. Homosexuals and Lesbians - If you walk into the building and they are everywhere, leave! Any man that attracts homosexuals is a homosexual. Any pastor that allows homosexuals to roam freely in his ministry is probably a homosexual. Any man that defends the gay lifestyle is most likely gay. Any man that has a tolerance for the lifestyle is probably gay. Any man that doesn’t get squeamish when they are surrounded by homosexuals likes the attention. People, why are we playing around with this? Why are we making this a non issue? It’s an obvious problem. Homosexuals will not thrive in a ministry that does not condone them. They will repent and be delivered if the power of God is truly in a ministry. If the leader tolerates their lifestyles and uses their talents without delivering their souls, then he is a pimp and should be avoided. This one should be a no brainer.

4. Club Attire - If the Pastor wears an earring, don’t get out the car! How can you ever have standards in your home and amongst your sons when the very pastor of the church is modeling vanity and showing he is a playa? Also, if people are walking around sexy in church and no one cares, then you know that church is not practicing holiness. I’m not saying that folks have to have crusty lips and nappy hair, but what I’m saying is that, butt cracks, cleavage, and belly buttons should not be outfit accessories! And please, let’s not get on the women and not touch on the men. We see that too often where the women have to look like national geographic natives, but the men can prance around dressed like Superfly! Let’s balance this out and just say, the church is not the club. We must not be intentionally sexy in the house of God. Tight fitting clothes and such just don’t belong in God’s house. God is the focus, so hide your meat!

3. Secular Remakes - If you visit a ministry and they welcome all the single people with Beyonce’s song “single ladies” or they sing “reasons” to the married couples, then you know you are in a den of debauchery. If they had a memerial service for MJ, then you are in punkdom and need to leave! Any church that has to resort to old and new school secular jams to keep people interested is nothing but a bootleg club and they need to start stamping hands. What happened to the “NEW SONG” that David spoke of? Why are people singing the worlds songs in church? The secular artists that wrote them are complaining and they want their songs back on the radio and in the world where they can get paid for them, not in the church. What a shame.

2. Obamania - If you hear about the president every week and your pastor has gone off the deep end trying to weave him into every sermon on a weekly basis, then you know it’s time to go! Our president stands for everything that Christ is against. How in the world do we make him a favorable topic for the church? Shouldn’t we as a church stand against his policy if it conflicts with the Word of God? But we have pastors that have jumped on his band wagon and are using his fame and popularity to generate income and membership. They feel if they keep him the focus, people that support him will support them! And they will always say “now, i don’t agree with all of his policies, but……..praise the Lord for blessing us with a black president!” That’s like saying “I know he is a satanist, but praise God I finally got a date!” I’m telling you, this is a true sign of the times when the president gets more time than Jesus in our pulpits.

1. God said stay! - This is not for the visitors, but this is for those that have seen a moral decline in the church you have been attending. You have seen the pastor embrace the world, carnality, television and movie stars. You have begun to hear more about money than about Jesus. You hear more about the pastors wants and desires than the desires of Jesus! You see the youth partying and hip hopping during the service and it just does not agree with your spirit. Homosexuals are everywhere and no one cares anymore. You are being abused spiritually because you are not giving as much as you are told by the pastor or you are not with the new stuff that’s going on. So, what do you do? You attempt to exercise your GOD GIVEN DOMINION AND RIGHT TO LEAVE. But when you meet with the pastor, he tells you that God said you can’t???? He says that God has told him something that he won’t tell you? In other words, you can’t leave because something bad is going to happen.

Well, this is witchcraft manipulation in the highest degree. When you are afraid to leave, then you know it’s not God. He has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and………..a sound mind. If the place you are worshiping is not spiritually sound, then that’s the part that is not God and the fear to leave must be rebuked.

Listen people of God. We are in a bad state of the church right now. It’s like the dark ages all over again. People think church is for the sinner and it’s not. Church is the collective body of believers assembling together in a unified manner. Those that practice and condone sinfulness are excluded! Sure many are weak and need strength, but you can’t draw strength from weak leaders! And for this cause many are not going to church anymore and would rather stay home. But God is faithful and I pray that you will make 2010 the year that you step away from that carnal headship and make a move of faith! Step out and seek the face of God for clarity. He will lead you to a wonderful place where the Spirit of God resides and the carnality of men is not. But you must take the step of faith first. Once you move, God will move on your behalf.

2Cor. 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Jer. 12:10 Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

2Tim. 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Matt. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Jer. 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.

In His Name,

G. Craige Lewis

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37 Responses to “Carnal Church Detection”

  1. denise Says:

    WHY!!??? is this printed in yellow people?

  2. Grace Siwale Says:

    Oh my word EX ministries is right on the money. Just recently a man from infected one of TD jakes elders in the church with HIV. What exactly are these churchs teaching and doing behhind the scenes. These are the last days peeps where there is sooo much going on even in the church.

  3. Parline Says:

    I don’t know if this will help for those who stated that they are looking for a church that preaches sound biblical teaching & not into any of the foolishness of a carnal church. Here are some websites that can help: amazingfacts.org cartereport.org. May the Lord Jesus guide you through the power of the Holy Spirit. God Bless!

  4. prayrwarrior Says:

    Is there a church left in Dallas, TX that even endeavors to preach sound doctrine? I am not looking for a perfect church because the minute my family and I get there it will become imperfect…LOL…but a church that can give us the WORD of GOD we need to survive this end time? I am concerned for us but most concerned for our child. We do Bible studies every so often but we need a church, I have been praying and have not received an answer yet. I could just start visiting other churches but it is not in my heart to do, I am so fed up with all of these churches competing for TV and radio time, trying to be famous. It makes me ill. My old church had virtually all of these signs in operation and I cannot stay there at all. Spiritually it is on life support.

  5. LifeWithChrist Says:

    Amen!!!! I am a witness to all of the things mentioned above. I have been under leadership where there was “spirtiual abuse” going on”, prayer warriors dressed like they are going to the club, “pyramid schemes”, and seed time and harvest. Thank God for discernment so we could get out of those false churches! Sometimes the signs were not so evident at first, but the longer we would stay, the more we would see. My husband and I are so hungry for the truth of the Word of God. We are grateful to Jesus for ministries that warn and tell us the truth.

  6. SeekingHisFace Says:

    Pastor Craig:
    Thank you for standing on God’s Word and not compromising! In these times it seems the world doesn’t want to live according to God’s standards of holiness and your ministry is dedicated to uplifting the name of Jesus and keeping God’s standards top priority and not being influenced to accept what the culture deems relevant.
    This top 10 things of a carnal church speaks to my situation during this season as approximately four months ago my Pastor revealed to me that he’s on the down low (just a cultural euphemism for homosexual) and HIV positive. He’s married and his wife is aware of his lifestyle. After being absolutely devastated and seeking guidance from the Holy Spirit on how to deal with this situation I asked my Pastor if he wanted to be delivered from this lifestyle. His answer was not convincing and not Biblical (repentance and turning away from his sin). So, it took me about three weeks to notify him that I won’t be setting foot inside that church ever again as long as he continues his DL lifestyle and continue in his deceitful, spiritually bankrupt way of living. I future explained that my spiritual growth has been impacted due to my close proximity to him as a potential deacon. I have been privy to see how Satan invades the church and perversely attacks the head to get the body to follow in perversity and fornication.
    I’m in prayer and waiting on the Lord to lead me to a church that preaches the unadulterated Word of God and against sin and for living in holiness. Thanks again Pastor Craig for not just this top 10 signs of a carnal church, but for the many more postings I have read over the last several months. May God continue using you and the Ex-ministries family to be a light unto this world and a standard of excellence for God and His people.

    • Seeking a true church people Says:

      God bless you SeekingHisFace continue to seek Jesus Christ and his righteousness. I am praying that God will lead you to the “right” group of save, sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost believers. I am seeking the Lord Jesus also for a place where people want to live for the Lord and practice living Holy daily and this includes everyone, pastor, deacons, members, EVERYONE! In Houston, Texas seeking the Lord Jesus to show to this place.

      Ms. J

      • SeekingHisFace Says:

        Ms. J-
        Thank you for your response! It has been a season of spending a lot of time with Jesus and that has and will sustain me! But a lot of saints are under attack by the enemy (Satan) and we must continue to stand for Christ and not personality, not matter the cost! I’ll pray for you as well that God leads you to a true church! Thanks for the encouragement…

  7. Debra Jones Grant Says:

    “I have experienced all the ten signs Pastor Craige spoke about”, and have done exactly
    what he said…I stepped out in faith, lefted the church I was in, and I have never had so
    much peace in my life!!…”Since leaving,”me, my husband, and some family members have been having bible studies in our home, and will continue until the lord say’s otherwise…
    In the mean-time, if anyone knows of a carnal free church in Phoenix, Ariz would you
    please post it in your comments…I am so greatful to God for Pastor Craige Lewis, every
    thing he preaches and teaches have been confirmation after confirmation…”He knows what
    he’s talking about”…Please pray for us!!

  8. Jerome Says:

    I hear you God’s people. We too have had the hardest time finding a good sound church. The thing that bothers me is the churches still sing the Tonex, Hezekiah, and the rest of the compromisers songs. And even when i war in my flesh and get weak i hear “don’t go back to Egypt”. The last church we visited i was already skepticle, and not being conceited or anything, but usually when i get that feeling it’s accurate. But i heard the Holy Ghost say, “leaven”. Sure enough when we shared that that Hez is the Pastor of hip hop and gave him part 5, the next sunday hear comes the beat down. Then he starts talking about Jakes and Miles Monroe. And then he got up and sung a solo of “….I pray for you! …You pray for me [you know the rest]. But the good news is, even after all that, someone “ON MY JOB” came to me for prayer and gave his life to Christ. So, even though we can’t find a assembly of true church believers in a building, it sure feels good to be the church. His name is Craige Holmes be praying with me to help keep him lifted up in prayer. Selah!

  9. EDreana Says:

    Brother Lewis…you have confirmed what God has shown me about Divorce and Witchcraft Manipulation in the Highest Degree…our family will be visiting you very soon…!

  10. ManofChrist Says:

    Does anybody on this site go to a TRUE church? That does it the way God wants it done? If so, How do we define what a TRUE church is?

    • Kim Worthy Says:

      Brother Manofchrist, if I lived near EX Times I would attend their church. In the meantime, my Word is my church. My husband and I are looking for a Bible teaching church. The church doesn’t even have to have a choir as long as it is teaching the Word of God. How would I know the church is doing that, because I’m in the Word myself making sure. As for the second part of your question, 2 Timothy 1-4 is a good place to start.

  11. Derrick from Uncutruth Says:

    This is one of the best ex times ive read. Right on point, Thank you pastor Lewis for enlightening us. We love you

  12. maria Says:

    G. Craig Lewis,

    Isaiah 62:1 For Zion’s sake i will not keep silent, And for Jerusalem’s sake i will not keep quiet, Until her righteousness goes forth like brightness, And her salvation like a torch that is burning.

    That is the scripture that came to my spirit as at read your message from heaven, the Oracles of God, please do not be silent.
    mu

  13. Angel10 Says:

    Lol @ “Obamania”! Its true..its amazing how people get upset when u talk about what the president is doing, as if they know him personally. I admit, I did vote for him but out of ignorance, but I thank God for exministries for shedding so much light and now I am not desensitized by how certain things work. Because of your ministry Pastor Craig I am growing so much more in Christ and my husband and children are blessed as well…Thank you and your staff for taking the time to research all this material. I enjoy everything this website offers and the daily breads you send, AWESOME. I also enjoy reading all the comments from all the extime readers. I have all 5 TTBHH and I can’t wait to purchase more dvds. :)

    RESPONSE: Thank you and many blessings to you and your family.

  14. KIM WORTHY Says:

    Good teaching plain and simple. If you can’t get this you won’t get it! It wouldn’t surprise me how many christians are tolerating this Sunday after Sunday. I’m saddened by the number of churches practicing this bafoonery.

  15. GodzChild24 Says:

    Thank you so much Pastor for posting this. The church is certainly losing it’s power to win souls now because even sinners see what’s wrong with the church. We as a body need to get to a place where it’s not about how many members you have, or the money, but it is about winning souls! How can you have homosexuals, the very thing that God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah for, in church??!! And then at that, you put them in leadership? That is a big problem, and some churches just don’t have the fear of God anymore. I am praying that someone will lift up a standard and put their foot down to all this foolishness.

  16. Darla Says:

    Praise God for the truth! Unfortunetly, I have yet to find a home church. I do visit because I want to get together with the body of Christ to fellowship. Like pastor said………it’s not always the leadership, but the lay people. I was enjoying this particular pastors sermons, when I noticed every sunday, the “same” folk were running up to the alter to repent. I’m like: “What in the world is going on?” I thought repent meant to turn away. How is it that the same people are repenting every week? (Including the youth pastor) I’ve come to realize that a confession has been made, but a “change” in lifestyle hasn’t. (which leaves the question if they truly ever got saved) If any man be in Christ, he is a “new” creature, old things are passed away, behold all things are become new. I listened to the true church perspective message this past sunday, and it hit right on target with what I’ve been experiencing with the churches, and so-called believers these days. It’s very disheartening to see people profess Christ, but live like the world. Good grief……..will the “real” Christians please stand up!

    • Eazy Sr. Says:

      Darla I totally understand where you are. I come from a very powerful ministry, and I joined a church that was powerless. It affected my life spiritually to the point where I was confused about salvation. But that was my fault, because of that decision I’m very careful of joining another ministry. Now I visit when I can I’m upset with church today because of the compromise. Everyone has an agenda it seems, either money, fame or just want to be seen. I pray that God blesses me to find a God fearing ministry that doesn’t compromise and you too. May God bless you and your family and I pray you find peace. It was good to see that someone else understands so I had to reply. I refuse to join any church these are the last days and you better be careful. All glory to God the Father and His son Jesus.

      • Darla Says:

        Easy Sr…..

        Thank you soooo much! I really appreciate your prayers. Rest assure, I will definately be praying for you as well. God bless you as you continue to seek fellowship at a God fearing ministry.

  17. Min. Robert Murrell Says:

    Amen, and amen. It took my new wife to use discernment to tell me to leave a carnal church I was preaching at. Souls were being saved, but at the cost of auctioning for money. What I mean is that every tithe and offeratory period turned into an auction. The people were mocked because they didn’t have money because of circumstances. So we left and went somewhere we could grow spiritually and our growth not be stunted. Saints of God, let me tell you something, “Hear Me”. Just because you preach at a church or go to a church were people are being delivered, does not make it the right place. God’s Word is going to work regardless of who says, in Isaiah 54 or 55 it says that God’s word will not return void, but accomplish what it is set out to do. We all need to read through our Bible more and let the Word of God go through us and find out where we are. Start asking for some discernment and stop letting people tell you not to “judge them”. Sin is sin, don’t be a jelly back Christian, Jesus was not a spiritual wimp, so don’t you be one! Jesus said he left us of those who accept, love and apply His
    commandments with the power of the Holy Spirit. Let the Holy Spirit be your guide when find a church, that is filled with the power of the True and Living God. Stop seeking popular preachers and “make me feel good and comfortbale about my sin” sermons and go some where your soul can and will be delivered form satan’s grasp around your neck!

    • Debra Jones Grant Says:

      “God’s word is powerful in itself”…And It’s the word of God that’s being sought after, not
      popular preachers!!

    • Meka Says:

      Min Murrell,
      Don’t even get me started on the, “Don’t Judge” nonsense. That is my litmus test to let me know that I am dealing with someone who is or spiritually ignorant or spiritually dead. Jesus told us to make rightful judgments in John 7:24 and you’ll see the trend throughout the Bible. People who enjoy sinning don’t want you to say a word because they want to suppress the truth and but we are to expose the truth like we were instructed in Ephesian 5.

      I have the love of God in my heart HOW can I sit silently while my brother or sister sins Galations 6:1? We all know that the wages of sin is death. I ONCE attended a church where my spineless pastor tolerated everyone and everything UNTIL I spoke out against sin. He some how got bold and instead of speaking out against sin he chose to speak out against me in the pulpit and wouldn’t you know that when my husband and I confronted him he began to lie that he was not talking about us. We had no choice but to leave. I am glad that we are the church and hopefully we will find a building of people who are also the church.
      I really enjoyed your post.

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  19. Unknown Says:

    Minister Craig I attend the church of Christ they claim to be a offset of the new testment church and the only true church. I am married under the same leadership. Yet the divorce rate in the church is high. I also am thinking of divorcing. Witchcraft is rampant in the leadership and it’s all keep secret. Everytime I am on your site I go to church and they seem to know. I just need to know what is the true church. Maybe you can let me know check the info first newtestamentchurch.com please do a lookup on this

  20. Mamu Says:

    Great insight! May God give us all a spirit of discernment that is uncompromising.
    Just a note though… shouldn’t line 4 read “and his ministers into ministers of righteousness” instead of “and his ministers into ministers of unrighteousness”?

  21. question Says:

    Am in a church that practices 1 of this things. e.g we take secular lyrics and turn them to gospel, we also use secular themes to preach. since thes no perfect church can i still stay? be frank and open to me

    Response: http://gcraige.blogspot.com/2009/06/peoples-preachers.html

  22. LaDonna Says:

    Signs #1,3,4,6,8,9, & 10 are the reasons that I’m no longer at a ministry I attended for over 10 years. It’s real sad.

  23. Daniel Frazier Says:

    Great post! I remember this or something a lot like this reading in the blog section of this website. But a great refresher. I’m thankful for GOD leading me to EX-Ministries, you guys are truly being used by GOD to turn HIS People back to HIM in these Last Days and to take a stand while things get worse and worse as each day goes by. GOD Bless…

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