MOTHER OF ALL GODS: Catholics are more supportive of gays than any other denomination

Posted: January 10, 2012 by exministries in Uncategorized

New church group to assist gays draws criticism

Source: ctpost.com

Published 11:49 a.m., Monday, January 9, 2012

By John Burgeson Staff Writer

BRIDGEPORT — A new program by the Archdiocese of Hartford to provide a spiritual support system to assist men and women with same-sex attractions to live chaste lives has drawn criticism from the gay community who say it can do more harm than good.

The new program called Courage, which has chapters around the world, does not condone physical sex between same-sex partners. But it creates a “spiritual support system which would assist men and women with same-sex attractions in living chaste lives in fellowship, truth and love,” according to the Courage website.

“We really needed to do something because a lot of people are hurting, because families are torn apart by this, and we really need to be responsive,” said Deacon Robert Pallotti, who operates the Courage program in Connecticut.

“We do have a pastoral responsibility to do all we can to make people feel welcome in the church.”

Catholic pro-gay groups generally had a negative reaction to Courage.

“Courage does not want to convert you to become heterosexual, so in some ways, it’s a little more enlightened than the other programs that the Catholic Church has had for gays,” said Phil Attey, executive director of the national group, Catholics for Equality. “But at its core it’s still rooted in dangerous, harmful and barbaric thinking. The idea that you can suppress someone’s sexuality and still have that person develop into a happy, well-adjusted person, well, there’s very little evidence that that’s possible.”

Attey, however, said the church’s stance on gays isn’t pushing him out of his faith.

“Most non-Catholics don’t understand the Catholic experience, which is very much rooted in family and community,” Attey said. “It’s not unlike someone who is a Jew. He might not attend his synagogue, but that doesn’t make him any less Jewish. We will always be Catholic, regardless of what comes out of our hierarchy.”

Attey said that most rank-and-file Catholics, in fact, support the gay community, and because of this, gays feel comfortable in the church.

“American Catholics are the most supportive faith group in the country on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) issues. That may come as a surprise to a lot of people, given the harsh statements from the hierarchy, but if you look at the people and the ’body church,’ it’s the most pro-gay church in the country.”

Marianne Duddy-Burke of Dignity USA agrees. Dignity USA is the nation’s largest advocacy group for LGBT Catholics.

“You really have to differentiate between Catholics and the church hierarchy,” she said. “Even the Catholics who go to church every single week are more supportive toward gays than the population as a whole.”

She said that this might spring from the Church’s demands for the humane treatment of a host of other groups that have often go neglected and even hated — prisoners, the sick, the poor, men on death row, and so forth.

“Catholics are more supportive of gays than any other denomination according to the Public Region Research Group, and that surprises a lot of people,” she said.

As for the future, Attey said he doesn’t expect the Vatican to change its posture on gays anytime soon.

“We don’t expect any dogmatic change on LGBT issues anytime soon, but what we do expect is that more and more Catholics will be speaking out on their own on LGBT rights,” Attey said.

“This is a place where the leaders have to catch up with the truth that Catholics are living out every single day in their families and in the workplace,” said Duddy-Burke.

Pallotti said not all of the hierarchy in the archdiocese was on board with Courage from the outset.

“Many of them were fine with this, but we wanted to educate those deacons who had a reluctance to get involved or had some resistance, and many were dealing with their own personal feelings on this,” Pallotti said.

He said that Courage is sanctioned by the Vatican as the “only approved approach.”

The Rev. Paul Check of St. Mary’s Church in Norwalk, who runs the Courage meetings, explained that Courage “addresses homosexuality as a lived reality in the lives of individual people.”

Check said that “there’s no doubt” of the difficulty of the church’s teaching on homosexuality.

“But we have a way for people to live this teaching, and that’s where Courage comes in,” Check said. “Really, as a matter of natural justice and pastoral charity, we have to have a way for people to live that teaching. It’s difficult and challenging, but it helps people with this particular struggle.”

The roots of the Connecticut Courage chapter grew in the gay marriage debate in the state, Pallotti said.

“I was very fearful of the emotional backlash that I was witnessing in Connecticut during the gay marriage debate,” Pallotti said. “So I went to the archbishop and I said, ’OK, yeah, this is our position (to oppose gay marriage), but I’m concerned about people who are whipping up hate against gays as if they have the Plague or something — and some Christian churches were doing that. We had to confront this head-on.”

The Connecticut Courage chapter will meet twice a month “somewhere in Greater Hartford,” he said, and the exact location will be disclosed only to those who plan to participate. If there’s sufficient interest, other chapters might be set up in the state.

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Comments
  1. Janet says:

    It’s no wonder that some say anti-Christ will be gay. I don’t know how true that is but now I see how that could be true if the Catholic church supports Gays.

  2. Bensy says:

    I am not surprise that catholicism is all about false god worship. So I’m not surprise that these catholics who doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ as their only Lord and savior would accept homosexuality( abomination) and possibly other sins.

  3. LadyPost0925 says:

    Wow… This is messed up…. And I even heard a Bishop say that believing in catholicism/being a catholic will not send you to hell…something’s wrong with that statement.

  4. Jo Jo @36 says:

    To my knowledge Catholics don’t pray to God in the name of the Son with/ mentioning Mary. If this is what they think; will keep or make peace with the LGBT they r wrong. Silencing the truth abroad, and God loves us and will save us no matter what seems to b their motive. The deception is so in our face that as a people who read the Word we know that this is leading to more confusion. I pray that The Lord of all will open their eyes to receive the Truth in Him. Jesus is the only way to The Father which is in Heaven. Its like to say the blind is leading the blind.

  5. Tina.G. says:

    PART 7 SAYS IT ALL… IF YOU DON’T HAVE IT GET IT PLEASE!! PASTOR CRAIGE THANKS AND THANK GOD FOR YA!!

  6. Joseph Bass says:

    I think that people either forget or do not want to acknowledge that God makes the rules. He defined marriage when he put together the man and woman. No one has the right to change this. Consider this statement, the creator of the Mercedes determines what a Mercedes is. We were created by God. The Ford company does not its Explorer a Range Rover, neither can a man, who was created and born a man call himself a woman.
    We also need to consider God’s description of the homosexuals in Sodom. He stated that they were sinners before the Lord exceedingly. This adverb is not used anywhere else in the Bible with respect to other sins. We are fond of saying that this sin is like other sins. But look at the word exceedingly…This means over the top.

  7. Esther Morgan says:

    @ Marcus, that was very well put. Sometimes we as Christians say things in the improper way. I’m totally against any sin, but there is a way to say it. We need to live the life of a true Christian before them and then when God tells us to speak to them then it will be with power if they won’t hear us then God will be their judge. We need to tighten up in every area of our life. God is soon to come can’t you see the signs.

  8. Taura Helms says:

    Go figure.

  9. JR3 says:

    People, this is the Roman Catholics at work. The papacy are destroying the church, they don’t stand for nothing and they are trying to take as many people to hell as they can. They’ve already infeltrate the majority of the churches. That is why you see pastors calling themselves bishops, homos leading the choir, pastors been serve like kings etc.Nowhere in the Bible men of God call themselves these things. Like mentioned in Revelation, they’ve drunk the wine of the whore and are fornicating with her. This whore we are talking about is the Roman Catholic Church. PEOPLE REPENT, REPENT, REPENT, DO NOT BE PART TAKERS WITH THESE DEVILS……….OUR LORD’S RETURN IS NEAR, IT IS AT THE DOOR. COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS…AMEN…

  10. maurice says:

    No matter what the devil may say all things are possible when we pray..

  11. Marcus D Batson says:

    I believe that it is pretty simple. When God’s Word is not held in its proper esteem, confusion abounds. There is nothing wrong with accepting people, we are supposed to reach the lost with the pure truth of the Gospel. But I believe that when churches are not living, moving and breathing by the pure Gospel, then they cease to be able to discern God’s true will, and begin to do what seems right in the eyes of man. There is no doubt that God loves sinners (John 3:16; Romans 5:8) but there is also no doubt that God HATES sin. Because homosexuality, lesbianism, etc., are becoming more outward manifestations (sin of course) anyone attempting to address these issues with anything other than the principles, truth, and wisdom of Jesus Christ (from the Word) are only planning to fail. People think that loving others means endorsing sinful lifestyles; it doesn’t! It means loving others enough to preach the Gospel, being reborn by the Holy Ghost, cleansed by the Blood, and transformed by the power of God’s saving (and free) grace!

    If anything, these types of things should allow us as Saints to be more specific and targeted in out prayers. Like it or not, these are the very people that Jesus died for and we should have a desperate desire to see them become saved, transformed, new creations in Jesus Christ!

    • Brian says:

      Marcus, it has been a while since I’ve seen such a sound, reasonable comment on here. I totally agree with you. God bless!

  12. 1lavonne says:

    What can I say we are definitely living in the last days….I wonder why don’t the real Christians speak against this Homosexual/Lesbian agenda…I commend those who do, and for those who don’t Y??????……….SMH! WE R GOING TO HAVE TO STAND FOR SOMETHING OR FALL FOR ANYTHING! Pro God or Pro devil choose ye this day!

  13. Bree says:

    The biggest problem with the Catholic Church is that they preach another gospel. That needs to be address and corrected first, else other issues are moot.

    • SL says:

      That’s true. Galatians 1:6-7 says that a different gospel is “really no gospel at all”. It goes on to say that these other gospels cause confusion, “pervert the gospel of Christ” and Paul says of those who preach it “let him be eternally condemned”. This article quotes the idea that Catholicism is a denomination. But it is not Christian doctrine to believe that you need 7 sacraments to get into heaven as if Jesus’ death & resurrection were not enough. (That’s just one area where the Catholic Church and the Bible go in separate directions.) The Catholic Church cannot align with the truth if it is not in the Truth to begin with. They need to come to Christ first, then issues of sin can truly be addressed because the Holy Spirit will be dealing with it. Pray for Catholics.

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