Why does Joel Osteen put Christians & Mormons in the same category?!

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Osteen: Romney is a Christian

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(CNN) – Famed pastor Joel Osteen reiterated his position that Mitt Romney is a Christian on Tuesday, saying as long as the likely GOP presidential nominee believes that Jesus is the Son of God then he subscribes to the Christian faith.

“When I hear Mitt Romney say that he believes that Jesus is the Son of God–that he’s the Christ, raised from the dead, that he’s his Savior–that’s good enough for me,” Osteen said in an interview to air on CNN’s “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.”

While Osteen described the Mormon faith as “not traditional Christianity,” he said he believes Mormons fall under the Christian tent.

“Mormonism is a little different, but I still see them as brothers in Christ,” the pastor argued.

Romney’s faith has largely remained an outlier in this presidential cycle, though some have expressed skepticism at the likely Republican nominee’s religious views.

A leading Baptist pastor in Dallas, for example, made headlines in October when he urged Republicans to vote against Romney, saying voters should elect what he called a Christian, not a Mormon. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints identify themselves as Christians.

More recently, some students at the evangelical Liberty University have taken issue with Romney being tapped to deliver the school’s commencement address in May.

Recent polls, however, show a majority of Americans are open to having a Mormon as president.

Romney is not the only one who has taken heat over his faith. Polls have shown a small minority of Americans have questioned whether President Barack Obama is a Christian.

Countering the speculation, Osteen said Tuesday he has spent time with the president and has no doubt about his faith.

“I believe with all my heart that he’s a Christian, as he says he is,” Osteen said.

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64 Responses to “Why does Joel Osteen put Christians & Mormons in the same category?!”

  1. nikolangelo Says:

    http://nikolangelo.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/christian-millionaire-and-advocate-for-homosexuality/
    LET EXPOSE THE FALSE PROPHET, JOEL OSTEEN! I HAVE BEEN BLOCKED SEVERAL TIMES CAUSE THIS MAN DIDNT WANT ME TO SPREAD THE TRUTH ! HE DOES NOT WANT US TO SPEAK! HE NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED !

  2. Tracy Brown Says:

    I am surprised to here Joel Osteen Representing Mitt Romney who is indeed not for the poor, not for. A many of civil rights issues,Medicare, wanting higher taxes, and being behind people who support the tea party. I had been a member for a while at Joel Osteen Church and I will now be looking for a new church. He has many minorities at his church and his top singers are black mostly. Moving on to higher ground. Anybody can say there a Christian but you must also follow in Christ Jesus he represented all people. Especially the poor and sick.

  3. TC Says:

    The other day I was watching the 1968 movie of “Pollyanna” and enjoyed the preacher and his style of ministering. You don’t hear it anymore and you have to admit that we are seeing the scripture come alive before us and that is, ‘they will heed to themselves teachers for their itching ears to tell them what they want to hear~ and also, they won’t endure sound doctrine~People in the movie said, Sundays gave everybody sour stomach but I rejoiced in his loud voice declaring the truth. I miss the days when they use to preach and our flesh didn’t liKe it but the spirit rejoiced in the truth and welcomed it!

  4. basil Says:

    Joel is either ignorant of Mormon theology or ignorant about what it really means to be a christian, which means HE isn’t a christian. Kind of spookey when you think that thousands call this man “pastor” & watch his program every week.

    No doubt he thinks he’s being loving & respectful to others but it’s really not about love or respect. It’s about speaking the truth. Jesus said you shall know the truth & the truth will make you free, John 8:32. Better to speak the truth & be called unloving than to tell a lie in the name of love.

    Actually, Joel Osteen & the like are full of love….for themselves. They love the praises of men. They love the accolades, their position. They love being known for their progressiveness & forward thinking. They love being the ones that Fox News & CNN calls when the media wants to know what’s up in the church. They like being the face of the church, the go to guys. The pay isn’t to shabby, either. They’re in it for the fame & fortune. That’s what they love. They’ll sacrifice truth for the dollar. But about the people who follow them? Sure, there are those who follow because the message Joel preaches is easy but I’m also sure many follow him because they really do believe that what this man says is the gospel. They think he’s leading them to Christ & heaven. When it turns out to be the other way around, what will he say to them? How will he explain why he didn’t preach the gospel? How will he justify himself then? Yes, God have mercy!

  5. 4u2cHIM Says:

    Joel osteen is apart of the antichrist agenda,he, jakes,copeland,hinn, the croutches and many others, For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no marvel: for satan himself is transformed as an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness: whose end shall be according to their works. kjb 2Corinthians 11:13-15. joel has NO true fellowship with JESUS CHRIST!

  6. Bensy Says:

    Like I said before and I’ll said it again Joel Osteen is nothing but a great speaker and should have his own show rather than a church. If you constantly preach positive messages without preaching the word of God for what it is then you just should have your own show. Romney is a christian?? are you kidding me?? even the Devil believes Jesus is the son of God but that doesn’t make him a christian!

    • Church101 Says:

      I like that Bensy… Yep, I was saying the same thing… When Jesus cast demons out they cried out that Jesus is the son of God… Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, “You are the Son of God!” But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.
      Luke 4:41

  7. Debi Says:

    Jesus told us that we would see all these deceptions. If Joel Osteen is a real man of God he is surely among the seduced Christians. We are all expose to the temptation of the spirit of the antichrist.we have to pray for all the Saints and keep our lives clean. Remember “only few people will get through the right door”.

  8. SandrineFromBelgium Says:

    This man is really from the devil

  9. Ehi samuel Says:

    ‘To him that is clean, all things are clean’. So pastor joel is right to say that the presidentail nominee is a brother in christ. Is not ours to judge if any one is in the light or in darkness after all God is the father of them all. And every one in the christian fold was drawn by grace so may be that same grace has not appeared to the presidential nominee or he is just too blind to see it..

    Reply: I wish I has a little more time to do this comment justice. The bible does not state the God is the Father of all. The devil is also a father as well and his has his own children.

    Your statements are inclusionistic and foul. There is no scripture to back anything you said.
    “Is not ours to judge if any one is in the light or in darkness after all God is the father of them all.”
    Are you serious?!

    • R A W Says:

      You said God is the Father of them all. According to 1 john ch.3, your statement is false. Everyone is not a child of God according to the scriptures. Also in the gospel of John, Jesus told the scribes and pharisees that they were of their father the devil because of their works.

    • Bensy Says:

      Ehi you just contradicted yourself. You said is not ours to judge when you just did by subscribing to Joels judgement on Romney.

  10. FELICIA.H Says:

    Amen Neo, joel osteen have a form of godliness but denying the power thereof:from such turn away.Joel osteen is ignorant of many biblical interpretations,he is not filled with the holyghost! he has no CHRISTian power to stand bold on the Word of God preaching the gospel without compromising, therefor he has no true discernment of what a true christian is.

  11. askduane Says:

    Satan and the demons mention Jesus as the Christ. Does that make them a Christian?

  12. Pat W. Says:

    A Morman is not a Christian, Joel Olsteen is not a Pastor….. he is a man with itching ears, who like Oprah is leading millions to hell. I am praying very hard about this election. Another 4 years of No.44 scares me. I did not vote for president in 08, I left it blank and I think that by doing that, is how we ended up with obama. Will Romney push his cultish religion on America? I don’t know I pray not….but 4 more of 44 will see our Christian values and beliefs further degraded and replaced by this hellish one world ,one faith, “we are the world ” mentality spewed at us by the likes of Oprah, Jake’s, and Rick Warren. I think with the possibility of the choices we are going to be left with, the Lord is telling us our hope is not with a man, but with Him…this nation is headed for judgement and like Joshua asked…”Who is on the Lords side?” I will be voting, too many good men and women were, beaten, hosed, bitten by dogs, spat upon, shot, bled and died for my right to do so. Remember they are politicians…their first oath in office is to do or say whatever you want to hear and give you none of it. Except for No. 44…. he did promise “change” and boy did we get it. Pray for this nation, pray for bold preachers to rise up and speak truth, pray for Bro. Lewis and those like him and for ourselves to remain vigilant, focused and to lift our voices and be heard..we will not go quietly to sleep in our pews, remember the word says the race is won by the one who endures and by the one who puts their hand to the plow.

  13. Maria Says:

    The next set of questions in the interview of Joel should center on whether he is a “follower of Jesus”. Mormons are Christians? Absurd! They do not even reverence the Bible OVER their Book of Mormons (written work NOT inspired by God). Moreover, within the movement they still allow for multiple spouse marriages. As for President Obama being a believer and follower of Christ, that is absolutely ridiculous. He has signed his name to all kinds of documents allowing those plagued with the sin of homesexuality to have rights and priviledges. In addition, he is for abortion. Clearly, he is NOT connected to Jesus and certainlty does not follow His commands.

    It was convenient for Obama to use Christianity for political purposes especially in the African American Church. Sadly, many people were deceived by this ploy and voted for him at the poles. I hope and pray that he is REMOVED from his postion as president and someone else is elected. He and Joel have the same problem: MAN-PLEASERS! Both want the “approval of the people” and they will do and say anything to achieve that goal.

    I believe Joel knows the “accuracy” of scripture but CHOOSES not to stand firm because of his insatiable desire to be liked by people. God will hold him accountable for his nonsense preaching and teaching as well as promoting evil. My prayer is that God will continue to expose him and close down the ministry he leads because souls are at stake.

    Peace & Grace

  14. Diana achieng Says:

    Its so sad that christianity,that was meant 2 make us more like Christ,has degenerated into us ‘christians’ pointing fingers,judging who is christian who isnt.Even Christ himself never did that yet He is the son of God,instead He loved sinners back 2 righteousness.

    Reply: You’re off like two left shoes. Your point makes no biblical sense. The bible states clearly:

    Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth

    Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

  15. Joel W. Says:

    “I believe with all my heart that he’s a christian, as he says he is” – Joel Osteen Lol, yup and I could tell you that I have 20 million in the bank, and I’d be lieing too. Just because someone says something doesnt make it true! But thank God the bible tells you how to discern the truth, and we know that no bad tree can bear good fruit and so on. I know some christian folks, folks that I respect that’s still getting down with President Obama, and the argument always is but look at all the good he does too not just the bad?!?!,..huh?!..what! How can you get pass all that! You mean to tell me abortion and same sex marriage doesnt sound an alarm for you? I like Will Fords video on influence, that is very true. Just like in the bible when different kings became king in Israel some did good in the sight of the Lord and some did evil but you notice whether they did good or evil those kings who were over the people always cause “the people” to do that evil or that good whatever was done in the sight of the Lord. My point is that President Obama has opened up the door to an influence over this country that is causing the people to do evil in the sight of the Lord. I know I was off the topic but as far as mormanism its an occult practice, do your research! Love u all!! God bless!!

  16. janet Says:

    I am not surprised that this new age preacher would say such a thing. I used to listen to him thinking he was a really positive guy, almost like a motivational speaker, but I quit listening to him and lost respect for him when he said, on national t.v. that he would attend the weddding of a gay or lesbian couple if he respected them.

    such rubbish!

  17. Marilyn Says:

    Don’t mormons believe that UFO’s (fallen angels/demons) will come back to get them and if the male follower has been good, he will become a god too and then get his own planet to rule over?? So, how is that being a Christian, Joel?? No, True Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of the only True and Living God Almighty and Jesus will come back for his church to live with him for all eternity.. It’s sickening, I used to look at his tv show sometimes, but I felt like it was just too sweet and I knew Christian life was not like that lol… Being a Chrisitian you are in a fight/battle/war and nice words and jokes will not sustain you.. This motivational speaker can say anything and still have a church full of people flowing in and attending there.. I guess they enjoy the happy words to tickle their ears! I pray they wake up, read and study for themselves before its everlasting too late….

  18. Andrew Asante Says:

    I wonder why CNN give Joel Osteen so much exposure ?!! Praying for the day they wld interview #Exministries the ‘christian’ community wld be shocked to see a group of uncompromising Christ followers !!

  19. endtimewarrior Says:

    I used to think that Joel was just biblically illiterate but I realized only an insane person would believe that True Christianity and Latter Day Saints are one in the same. Joel Osteen is a pawn of satan, He is being used to infiltrate the church for the NWO. Don’t let the phony smile and innocent look fool ya, He knows what he’s doing.

  20. Tonja Says:

    Because Joel Olsteen is a moron and he needs to stick to his bedtime stories

  21. fredvinson Says:

    Joel Osteen puts Mormons in the same tent as Christians b/c he is going down the same path that Carlton Pearson did…Universalism.

  22. Niesey Says:

    What’s worse is my sister and cousin like listening to his non-convicting sermons on tv and reading his Everyday is Friday
    book. lol They don’t hear me when I speak with love, the truth of God’s word. I just pray for them.

  23. Devon Says:

    Appalling lack of discernment on Osteen’s part…terrible….and what an awful choice their is for President….Liberal Secular Obama versus Liberal Moderate Mormon Romney…..they really are not that much different and both are poor choices to lead America…but we shouldn’t be surprised in these end days ……

  24. Janet Says:

    This is not a surprise to me that he would take such a broad view on Christianity. He is one of the biggest preachers of inclusion-ism I’ve ever known about. I used to listen to him, I used to think, “He’s a positive preacher. He’s like a motivational speaker.” However, I lost respect for him when he said he would attend a gay or lesbian wedding if he respected the couple.

    What a crock!!!!

  25. BT Says:

    The word Christian is used so loosely ! God never called His people , Christians ! Jesus Christ refers to His TRUE followers as disciples ! One that is disciplined to follow Christ and His word . So all these people calling themselves Christians , still does not make them a follower of Christ ! Remember Matt 7:22 Many will say to me that day, Lord,Lord have we not prophesied in your name ? And in your name have cast out devils? And in your name done many wonderful works ? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU , depart from me you worker of lawlessness .Only he that does the will of our Heavenly Father will have eternal life . A disciple of Christ believes and keeps Gods word ! Doing good works and attending someones Church doesn’t make anyone a follower of Christ ! He that picks up his cross and follows Christ is a true follower . The Christianity in America today , sad to say DOES not follow Jesus Christ !
    And is leading people straight to hell ! The Christianity today in our Country is , walk up to an alter , say a prayer , and the Pastor deems them saved ! And now all they have to do is what the Pastor says and pay tithe , go to church, and believe they are not suppose to suffer in any way , mean while believing God is suppose to do everything for them and even make them rich , as long as they give to the ministry ! WHAT A JOKE
    My prayer is for Joel and Romney to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ !

  26. A Very Concerned Student Says:

    I go to Liberty University and I can tell you a lot of us here are beyond outraged at this decision to have Romney speak at our commencement. It has really brought division here when you would expect us to be in one accord against such a decision. I personally had to debate a guy who did not find anything wrong with my school’s decision and the unbiblical things he said are too disturbing for me to repeat. Please keep my school in prayer because lately it’s becoming harder to identify what makes us a Christian university as opposed to secular. Please pray for our leadership. I believe we are under some serious satanic attack. The sad thing is people here don’t see it that way. Some think such things only happened during the biblical days. It’s very sad. What I saw and fell in love with when I first got here is sadly not what I am seeing these days. Please pray for the remnant here who are standing their ground for Christ and refuse to allow our school which was dedicated to Christ to be handed over to the devil. Thank you EX Ministries for always delivering the truth. Your ministry has really helped deliver me from a lot of things and now I am fully alert and not ignorant of the enemy’s devices.

    God richly bless you Elder G. Craige Lewis

    • Tiffany D. Says:

      God bless you, God keep you, God strengthen you by the mighty name of Christ Jesus.

    • sharnisest Says:

      I was shocked when I heard that Romney would be the speaker at Liberty on the news. Praying for your university and the faithful there.

    • Ehi samuel Says:

      Mamons or no mamons and what ever name joel calls them. After when its all been said and done God will take his own the fallen angels will come for the mamons. Jeol was on air and since he have little or no knowledge about the operation of those guys he wanted to be concous on air. But joel is still a brother.
      God bless you all

  27. Caitlin Says:

    Somebody PLEASE tell Joel Osteen to “sat down”!!! Ugh!

  28. Oneika Says:

    When has Mr. Olsteen stood for anything biblical? I know so many people who love watching him who have nothing to sustain them and who don’t even read the bible, but they faithfully “attend his church” via t.v. I wonder if any of his ” followers” read the uncompromising, true and living word of God!

    • Bea K. Says:

      I agree with Oneika, as should we really be surprised by anything this man does any more (if you think this is something, check out the fact that TBN is now ‘broadcasting on Catholic Networks’, can’t explain it folks but something really doesn’t feel right about this either.)?
      Osteen has said time and again, “he’s a Christian Motivational Speaker”, PLEASE find that description for me anywhere in the Bible?? The spirit of deception is rising with every fever pitch, and according to the Bible it won’t get any better from here on out (itching ears syndrome, 2 Timothy 4:3).
      Joel, Oprah, Pearson, etc. could care less what you, me, God, or anyone else has to say and that’s the truth. Go over their videos and see how many times the word “I” is used, rather than “thus saith the Lord God, or the Bible says this or that”?
      Galatians 1:8 tells us loud and clear what’s going on hear, but MANY it seems who follow Osteen and the others could care less, as long as it sounds ‘good’ to them (why hear the truth which should cause you to turn from your wicked ways, when a lie makes you feel better?). Can you imagine the ‘judgment’ that will befall those who knew better, but still decided it wasn’t worth it??
      I’ll continue to pray for Osteen and the others, in the hope they’ll turn from their ways, and to God/Jesus instead before it’s too late.

  29. Eva Landry Says:

    Joel Osteen is not a Christian. In order to be a Christian, you must LOVE JESUS CHRIST!

    • Come quickly Jesus! Says:

      Amen to that! The Mormons only recently adopted the guise of Christianity to make themselves look acceptable, but in reality, they’re a Satanic cult!
      The very name Mormon, comes from “Mormo”, king of the ghouls as desciribed by notorious satanist Anton LaVey. Their Mormon Tabernacle is loaded with Freemason symbols and hexagrams. Besides, anyone should know that a religion which claims you can be a god and have your own set of planets are not Christian! That’s what satanists also believe, that you’re your own god too! They also believe that Jesus and lucifer are brothers and other crazy stuff that any rational human being, that even non-Christians would NEVER even consider taking seriously. Please keep praying for our country! If Romney gets elected President, our country will in worse shape than ever before.
      I found out a lot of disturbing info about their beliefs at these websites if anyone wants to learn more:
      saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
      mmoutreachinc.com/mormons/facts.html
      jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

  30. winner01 Says:

    Ok then who is “Joseph Smith?” I thought thats who the Morman faith follows. All that is happening now is that through faithful intercessory prraying God is allowing more and more falsehood and counterfeit Christianity to come to the forefront but it is the true Christians responsibility to check it out with the Wordof God and research.If I choose to be lazy especially in this day and age due to what someone is saying because of the media exposure they enjoy then thats my fault as a Christian, Thanks ex Ministries

  31. childofGod Says:

    I dont know who to vote for. Niether canidate is a good choice for me.

    • MT Says:

      @child of God, there is no law saying you have to vote for anyone, they are going to put who they want in anyway and trick us into thinking we had any say so. if you dont feel either one is right you dont have to feel guilty about not voting, i get talked about, but i havent voted since 1991, and dont plan on it, because none of them are right or they wouldnt be in there, the gov is ran by the god of this world, i vote for Jesus. his laws are forever, and he is Lord of Lords and King of Kings

      • RD Says:

        @MT You are correct. The next president has already been picked and it will be Obama. Don’t be surprised if they change the Constitution to where presidents can serve more than 2 terms to usher in the New World Order. Keep your heads in the Word of God, and not the political theater being played out in the world’s media! Thanks EX Ministries for all you do and may God continue to bless you!

  32. Sean Says:

    Really Joel, really? Who else falls under the Christian “tent”? Joel seems to place appeasing/pleasing people above telling them the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth from the full counsel of God’s written Word. How sad when any Christian would aid and abet someones deception for the sake of being nice. If he really loved the Lord and the Lord’s sheep he would tell them the truth, in love, regardless of whether or not it hurt their feelings, disagreed with their false teachings or otherwise caused offense. Better to offend and give someone exposure to the truth than help facilitate them believing lies or deception.

    • deborah Says:

      AMEN!!!! It is time to tell the truth and not lead people astray. Read the word and know what it says. Do not be seeker friendly and tell whatever people want to hear. 2Tim. 2:15–study to show yourself approved, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. It is time to STUDY AND READ GODS WORD FOR YOURSELF!

      Do not be one of the so called Christians, the very elect that will be led astray..

  33. Lakera West Says:

    If mormons were Christians they would be called Christians. There’s no substitute for the truth. Either it is or it isn’t. Even as a child I could never watch his show. I always felt like it was fake. All he do is laugh and tell stories. You never hear him saying things about Jesus that would make you believe he’s the Son Of God. He talk about Jesus as if he was just this great guy.

  34. Gillian Says:

    Why is ex ministries putting Joel Osteen as a Christian Pastor? He said in his interview with Oprah that gay people go to heaven and has constantly said there are other ways to heaven. That does not sound like a Christian to me.

    REPLY: I have never recalled us posting Joel Osteen as a “pastor”

  35. mt Says:

    because if he starts doing anything like ohhh maybe preaching against what God hates, standing against anything the bible condemns, etc. if he does anything other than tell weak jokes and smile, he will be kicked off (BET) babylonian entertainment television, and (TBN) the blasphemy network, eventually causing him to work full time job like everybody else

  36. Fran Says:

    Joel Osteen see him as a christian because the only book in the bible Joel read is the book of Psalms…. Joel saying Romey is a christian is like saying a lion and an elephant is from the same family. Mormons believe Jesus was a god (lower case) and any human can be a god just like their leader B. Young taught that adam was God. And Romey is in a so call church that didn’t allow black people until 1978 and right now their bible speaks of blacks being a curse sorry Gladys Knight.

  37. Kim Says:

    If it does not line up with the word of GOD.
    Then it’s not from him.
    Thank you Lord Jesus
    Thank you Ex Ministrie

  38. In Love with Jesus Says:

    This is just extremely dumb to me. I don’t think I ever agree with any of Joel’s statements…he is very suspect and I believe he is into inclusion. He is always combining stuff and making excuses for stuff and never really defending the Bible and what it says! Does he read it? Does he really know what the Bible says? He said one time on tv that people of all faiths go to his church, Joel that is not good–people of all faiths? What does that mean!!! Just call yourself a motivational speaker, or a life coach and sit down! I’m sorry I can’t even look at his face!

  39. Mark Stevens Says:

    WOW! is all i can say.

  40. sallienell@yahoo.com Says:

    It’s not the Jesus of the Bible they believe in…check it out….and if it’s a
    different Jesus…it’s a different gospel. Come on yall lets contend earnestly for the faith that brought us! We can’t mix Joseph Smith (founder of Mormans and Allah who had no sons) with The Only Wise and True GOD who sent His Son Jesus to die for us, and say we are all
    brothers in Christ! NO! It’s a different gospel……….

  41. Linda A. Hill Says:

    I WILL NOT BE VOTING THIS ELECTION!

  42. Robert Glen Murrell Jr. Says:

    Spirit of Dumb!!

  43. Ann Brock (@TOBChurch) Says:

    Joel Osteen really have showed his hand on this one. It’s a very sad state of affairs when everyone is considered christian even if their beliefs don’t line up to scripture. Mormonism have always been viewed by the Christian community as a cult. Now all of a sudden it’s no longer viewed that way. I wonder what changed?

  44. James Says:

    I do not think it is proper to put Christians and Mormons in the same category. Nor do I think it is proper to put Catholic’s and Christians in the same category. We have a lot of Mormons here in Montana, something I did not see a lot of in the south. They are not christians but are more willing to help people out than most church people I knew down south. I do not agree with them but I know quite a few from work. I do speak with them but I feel like they are pretty close to being a UFO cult. When the great deception begins they will be deceived because they know Mormon, not Jesus.

  45. Nestor Says:

    Sure he’s a Christian if you can believe that God is an alien, the Archangel Michael became Adam, Jesus and Satan are brothers, and men can become angels, or gods and still be a Christian. But the bible says that a Christian is a disciple of Jesus. If you don’t follow Jesus’ teachings you are not a Christian. But for some of these “teachers”, they have to loosen God’s standards, so they can “get into heaven” so in their loosening of standards, others such as Mormons get allowed in. It’s a ‘big tent’ mentality that anyone who says they believe in Jesus gets in. Well demons believe, and shudder.

  46. summer67 Says:

    What Christian tent is he talking about…

  47. Mrs.Prince Says:

    He is wrong on so many levels…it gives me a headache jus thinking about it. Inclusiveness at its finest.

  48. Neo Says:

    Joel is not christian

  49. Cathy harris taylor Says:

    lukewarm & lies

  50. Kristina Says:

    Get real

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