Churches split over gay marriage
Religion is on both sides of the same-sex marriage conflict
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
At a black Pentecostal church in Raleigh, N.C., the Rev. Patrick Wooden entered the sanctuary on Sunday to a standing ovation, exulting that God’s “high hand” had led voters last week to pass a statewide amendment banning same-sex marriage. He took to the pulpit and denounced President Obamafor taking a stand “in support of sin,” and “in opposition to the biblical model of marriage.”
A thousand miles away, at a predominantly white, Lutheran church in Madison, Wis., where a rainbow banner greets churchgoers arriving for services, the Rev. Susan Schneider preached that gay men and lesbians were included when Jesus commanded his followers to love one another: “Knocking down the walls is what Jesus was after.”
Mr. Obama’s declaration last week that he supports same-sex marriage
prompted ministers around the country to take to their pulpits on Sunday and preach on the issue. But in the clash over homosexuality, the battle lines do not simply pit ministers against secular advocates for gay rights. Religion is on both sides in this conflict. The battle is actually church versus church, minister versus minister, and Scripture versus Scripture.
The dividing lines are often unpredictable. There are black churches that welcome openly gay couples, and white churches that do not. Some Presbyterian churches hire openly gay clergy members, while others will not. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that homosexual behavior is a sin, but there are Catholic priests who secretly bless gay unions.
And leaders in the United Methodist Church have been debating whether to ordain openly gay ministers for four decades, and voted again just this month to uphold their prohibition. But there are Methodist ministers who perform same-sex marriages in defiance of church rules who share the denomination with ministers who preach that America is going the way of Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality.

Dr. Patrick Wooden, senior pastor of the Upper Room Church of God In Christ in North Carolina, celebrates early returns that show strong support for Amendment One, which bans gay marriage in the state.
The faith divide resembles what the nation experienced in the debates over slavery, said Michael Coogan, a lecturer in Old Testament and Hebrew Bible at Harvard Divinity School and the author of “God and Sex: What the Bible Really Says.”
“The proslavery contingent quoted the Bible repeatedly, saying that God has all these commandments about slavery and nowhere in the Bible, including the New Testament, is it stated that there’s anything wrong with slavery,” Mr. Coogan said. “The abolitionists also quoted the Bible, but used the same sort of more general texts that supporters of same-sex relationships are using: love your neighbor, treat others as you would have them treat you, the golden rule.”
Mr. Obama invoked his own faith when he revealed on Wednesday — a day after North Carolina voters approved an amendment to ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions — that he supports same-sex marriage. He said that he and the first lady “are both practicing Christians,” and that “obviously” his position “may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others.”
“But, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the golden rule, you know? Treat others the way you would want to be treated.”
On Sunday, after Pastor Wooden quieted the standing ovation in his sanctuary in Raleigh, a sea of pink hats and dresses in honor of Mother’s Day, he went into a sermon that portrayed the fight for the same-sex marriage amendment as a divinely ordained cause.
Quoting from Exodus, he said God had led people to the polls with a “high hand,” just as God led the Israelites out of Egypt. Mr. Obama went “against God,” the pastor said. He invoked the New Testament passage from Romans in which men turn away from women and burn in their lust, “men with men.”
Pastor Wooden’s 3,000-member congregation, the Upper Room Church of God in Christ, is part of an African-American denomination that declared in 2004 that it would “never allow” or bless same-sex unions. The declaration cited passages from Scripture: that God created “the woman for the man,” (I Corinthians 11:9), and that “marriage is honorable” (Hebrews 13:4).
Pastor Wooden was in the forefront of the political fight over the marriage amendment in North Carolina, serving on the executive committee for the campaign and voicing radio advertisements heard around the state. He said that he had been raised by a single mother, and that he believed children needed both a mother and a father.
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May 18, 2012 at 6:53 AM |
I live in North Carolina and let me tell you…it was a fight. There was a lot of resistance, a lot of deception going on. The enemy was hard at work. The opponents of the Marriage Amendment gave the amendment a whole new name “Amendment One” and in doing so tried to sway the public by taking the focus off of what this was really about…MARRIAGE…and make it about something totally different. They said the amendment was poorly written when in actuality it couldn’t have been more plain. They had early voting at different locations in my city…primarily at churches. The church I voted at were against the amendment. At first, I’m thinking…this amendment must read that same sex marriage should be viewed in the same light as marriage between a man and a woman. I mean clearly…with this being a “church of god” and all this must be what it means. So, in my mind I was ready to vote against the amendment myself. Well, I get to the booth and read what the amendment REALLY says and I’m like…”wait a minute”…this amendment is FOR recognizing marriage as being between a man and woman ONLY. So, I went out of the booth and went and asked the lady a question(because I was thrown aback that professing Christians were voting against this). The lady got real smart with me as well. Long story short I voted for the Marriage Amendment and am so glad the majority of the people in our state did the same. The Lord was glorified and a line was definitely drawn in the sand. It really took me back to what brother Craige said at the beginning of 2010 I believe…that the time had come where people would have to make a stand one way or the other.
May 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM |
This story puts a smile on my face and a song in my heart to the Most High. Stay strong Dr. Wooden!
May 15, 2012 at 2:38 AM |
God bless you Dr. Patrick. That’s right! we need to keep standing against abomination!
May 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM |
It’s time that men of God stood up for what God stands for and stand against what God stands against, you cannot be a christian and stand against God, the devil quoted scripture to decieve Jesus, and it did not work and it’s stillnot working, great victory for the real church
May 14, 2012 at 6:18 PM |
Please, my nice people,this is the time to b rradicalll like Dr.Wooden. being radical doesnt mean u take machetes, swords or mI6 like how some do it… IT MEANS being stubborn in dfendin Christ at al cost. thats how i define a radical christian. us needs national repentance now but am sad to that is too late if sittin PREZ can declare total war against Christ n evrithin HE stands for. the national one is not possible but the individual repentance is… keep on fightin and dont let up… me n all Ghanaians ll not forget u people.. love u.. love ya so much.. peace.. peace….
May 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM |
I AGREE, IT’S “PAST TIME” FOR “GOD/JESUS” TRUE CHURCH, TO TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT’S RIGHT BY THE WORD, NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT. GOD’S PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SILENT LONG ENOUGH, THE BIBLE SAYS, “GREATER IS HE THAT’S IN ME, THEN HE THAT’S IN THE WORLD”. SO, HOW ABOUT WE START STANDING ON, TRULY BELIEVING IT, AND FIGHTING THE DEVIL WITH WHAT THE LORD GAVE US???
May 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM |
WAY TO GO DR. WOODEN!!!! I GOT YOUR BACK %100
May 14, 2012 at 4:59 PM |
Great news coming out of NC! Pastor Wooden has always been my favorite excast. Keep on standing for truth!
May 14, 2012 at 4:58 PM |
I saw that article in the times. It is very sad and disturbing
May 14, 2012 at 4:03 PM |
I began speaking out against Obama a few years ago and it seems like the black church is always ready to defend him but I like the comment posted on another article that said how can you be holy ghost filled and live by the word and God has not stirred you up once or gave you discernment to see through the deception. Sodom and Gamorrha is back from the dead but the King is on his way.
May 14, 2012 at 4:01 PM |
Thank you Lord! even in this world full of mess, there are still men of God standing for the truth! The Devil will not have dominion over the children of God. To Jesus be the Glory and the victory forever!
May 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM |
Marriage is not a constitional right as the LGBT would like to argue thier side, but it is a religious institution ordained by God thousands of years before even the OT was written. Nor is it a civil rights discussion as though the constitution made gay marriage illegal by manmade law. It wasn’t made illegal by man, but by God, and to redefine marriage creates a plethora of problems with the traditional views most people have toward marriage. So where does it end then…right for pedophiles to marry children of any age, mothers marrying sons, fathers marrying dauters, sisters marrying brothers? I guess the heart of man is deceitful beyond understanding. The media would like you to believe that the majority of society is for gay marriage, but in relity, it is not. As far as God loving those whom CHOOSE to be gay, this is true, but loving someone does NOT mean I agree with thier choices of living. Armour up saints, do not be found slack in doing battle in this area in love, as God does not account for slackness…speak the truth in love…
May 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM |
Great news! Thank God for rev. Wooden, elder Lewis, and men and women of God all over who stand for the truth of the Word no matter what! We must pray fervently, and be adamant believers! Now that Obama has openly supported the antichrist lgbt agenda, they feel like can do anything they want, and take over! But the devil is a liar! As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
May 14, 2012 at 3:26 PM |
stand up for CHRIST
May 14, 2012 at 3:13 PM |
People act like Obama cant be wrong. As Christians we must all UNITE and stand against this. Any Christian that votes for Obama after this is downright dumb. Obama has tried us all. Then wanna say he and his wife practice Christianity. He just wanna keep our votes. People need to wake up and smell the coffee. People are acting like its ok. He is a leader and hes leading people in the wrong direction. I find it scary,something bad is about to happen. When will people learn that playing with God is playing with fire. Im proud of North Carolina. Nd once Fl start nonsense,Im moving to North Carolina.
May 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM |
you’re right, Let’s not be deceived by the ungodly people(media, etc). Judgement is coming!
May 14, 2012 at 5:14 PM |
I so agree Lakera. I used to be kind of skeptical of Pastor Wooden years ago ( I’m from NC) but I have a new-found respect for him after this whole debate. It is sad that so many pastors are more concerned with siding with their “Black Messiah Obama” and pleasing their congregation, than they are standing up for the Word of God. I mean, isn’t that what being a minister of the Gospel is about, preaching and teaching so that souls will be saved, but for some I think it is only about making a name for themselves and putting money in their pockets. And I agree Lakera, I fear that something really bad is going to happen and soon. People think all of these storms, earthquakes, etc. are bad, they haven’t seen nothing yet.